Truth Be Told

Conversations that debunk myths, explore case studies and identify the keys to effective communication with a Certified Forensic Interviewer and special guests. Need to talk to an employee about a disciplinary issue? A family member or significant other about an uncomfortable topic? Attempting to uncover the truth of ”what really happened” through effective questioning and active listening? With unique perspectives from interrogators, exonerees, academics and professionals across multiple disciplines, learn how strategic communication can work to your advantage. Powered by Wicklander-Zulawski & Associates (WZ) and the International Association of Interviewers (IAI), ”Truth Be Told” brings to you some of the leading voices in the space of communication, investigations and interpersonal behaviors.

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Wednesday Jan 08, 2025

Can you imagine being accused of a crime you didn't commit? Even worse, imagine this happening while outside your home country - and in a language you don't fully understand.  What would you do?
In this episode of the Truth Be Told podcast, host Dave Thompson speaks with Amanda Knox about her life after the wrongful conviction that changed her life - and made international headlines.
They discuss the challenges of reclaiming her story, the impact of social media on public perception, and the importance of remembering the victims in wrongful conviction cases.
Amanda shares her experiences leading up to the tragic murder of her friend Meredith Kercher and the chaotic aftermath that followed, including the media's misinterpretation of her reactions and the struggle for truth in a polarized and misinformed world. In this conversation, Amanda Knox shares her harrowing experience of wrongful conviction and the psychological impact of her interrogation. She discusses the assumptions made by investigators, the tactics used during her interrogation, and the broader implications of false confessions. Knox emphasizes the importance of understanding the trauma associated with wrongful convictions and the need for reform in interrogation practices. The conversation also touches on the media narratives that shaped public perception and the ongoing consequences for those wrongfully accused.
Learn more about Amanda's work on her website and check out her podcast, Labryinths. 
Truths:
Amanda feels she is still chasing her narrative, as the day her identify was “stolen” was when she was interrogated and told her reality was different than what she knew to be true.
Reactions to the crime scene were misinterpreted, without supporting context or information for the public to know.
Media judgment can (and has) distorted public perception and interpretation of major incidents.
Similar to witnesses and victims exposed to traumatic events, Amanda's emotional response was misunderstood.
Misclassification can lead to devastating consequences in investigations.
The criminal justice system was never on Amanda's radar. Investigators made assumptions that led to wrongful conclusions.
False confessions often stem from coercive tactics or confirmation bias in investigations.
Wrongful convictions affect not just the victim of the crime, but also the wrongly convicted individual, their families and loved ones.
Often forgotten in a wrongful conviction is the impact to public safety which allows the actual perpetrator to continue to commit additional crimes.
Understanding the psychological impact of interrogation is crucial for everyone involved.
Reform in interrogation practices is necessary to prevent false confessions.

Friday Jan 03, 2025

Part 2 of this series brings you to the trial preparation of an attempted murder case, with the defendant facing a potential life sentence.  We'll hear the emotional perspective of the attorneys throughout the life of the case and explore the psychology of false confessions.  This episode also highlights the work of a false confession expert as we discussed how lying about evidence and contamination during an interrogation can lead to unreliable results.
Ever wonder what it’s like behind the scenes of trial preparation for attempted murder?  In this two-part Special Edition of the Truth Be Told podcast, we explore a case from 2014 out of Brooklyn, NY where heroes from FDNY rescued two young children who were trapped inside a burning apartment.  As the flames subsided, the investigation ensued, and police were pointed at a primary suspect for the alleged arson.  Once in custody, the police conducted an interrogation which produced a controversial confession to the incident.  This resulted in the defendant facing multiple charges of attempted murder, assault and arson with the potential of spending life in prison.
However, as the legal team of Adam Heyman, Anna Carlsen and Sarah Siegel learned more about their assigned case – it was not as open and shut as it seemed.  This team of attorneys joined the Truth Be Told podcast to give their perspective on how they reviewed the case, prepared for trial and ultimately represented their client.  The team also brought in Maria Hartwig, PhD, an expert in false confessions and police interrogation techniques to provide her opinion to the court on the reliability of the confession that loomed over their case.  Professor Hartwig also joins the panel to share the research behind false confessions and the common contributors, such as misclassification, coercion and contamination.
This two-part episode is intended to provide you the insight and perspective from the legal team of the defendant, and understanding how an expert witness is effectively used at trial.  For investigators, this series also provides several takeaways on how to ensure evidence is collected appropriately and can be relied on for further investigation or prosecution.  Our hope is to provide future jurors, investigators, attorneys and anyone involved in the courtroom working group with a new perspective on how our system is built on the foundational premise of “innocent until proven guilty."
 *Disclaimer: This podcast series does not represent a comprehensive review of the investigation into this case, but rather highlights the perspective of the defense team.  There are no assertions made by the Truth Be Told podcast as to the integrity of the investigation itself or the reliability of the statements provided by involved parties.  We encourage listeners to review all the information and formulate their own opinion relative to the case but with a more enlightened perspective provided by our panel of guests.
 

Friday Dec 27, 2024

Ever wonder what it’s like behind the scenes of trial preparation for attempted murder?  In this two-part Special Edition of the Truth Be Told podcast, we explore a case from 2014 out of Brooklyn, NY where heroes from FDNY rescued two young children who were trapped inside a burning apartment.  As the flames subsided, the investigation ensued, and police were pointed at a primary suspect for the alleged arson.  Once in custody, the police conducted an interrogation which produced a controversial confession to the incident.  This resulted in the defendant facing multiple charges of attempted murder, assault and arson with the potential of spending life in prison.
However, as the legal team of Adam Heyman, Anna Carlsen and Sarah Siegel learned more about their assigned case – it was not as open and shut as it seemed.  This team of attorneys joined the Truth Be Told podcast to give their perspective on how they reviewed the case, prepared for trial and ultimately represented their client.  The team also brought in Maria Hartwig, PhD, an expert in false confessions and police interrogation techniques to provide her opinion to the court on the reliability of the confession that loomed over their case.  Professor Hartwig also joins the panel to share the research behind false confessions and the common contributors, such as misclassification, coercion and contamination.
 This two-part episode is intended to provide you the insight and perspective from the legal team of the defendant, and understanding how an expert witness is effectively used at trial.  For investigators, this series also provides several takeaways on how to ensure evidence is collected appropriately and can be relied on for further investigation or prosecution.  Our hope is to provide future jurors, investigators, attorneys and anyone involved in the courtroom working group with a new perspective on how our system is built on the foundational premise of “innocent until proven guilty."
Disclaimer: This podcast series does not represent a comprehensive review of the investigation into this case,but rather highlights the perspective of the defense team.  There are no assertions made by the Truth Be Told podcast as to the integrity of the investigation itself or the reliability of the statements provided by involved parties.  We encourage listeners to review all the information and formulate their own opinion relative to the case but with a more enlightened perspective provided by our panel of guests.

Wednesday Dec 11, 2024

Do you interact with people who lie to you?  Do you ever have to engage in difficult conversations?  How well are you able to articulate your emotions?  We explored all of this and more in Season 1 of the Truth Be Told Podcast!
In this recap of Season One of the Truth Be Told podcast, host Dave Thompson, Certified Forensic Interviewer, reflects on the incredible journey of 25 episodes, highlighting key lessons learned from various guests. The conversation emphasizes the importance of effective communication, the integration of science into practice, leadership, self-development, and storytelling. Each chapter delves into these themes, showcasing insights from psychologists, attorneys, and other professionals, ultimately aiming to enhance listeners' communication skills in both personal and professional contexts.
Truths:
Effective communication is not just an art; it involves scientific principles that can be applied in practice.
Leadership and self-awareness are crucial for personal and professional development.
Storytelling is a powerful tool for effective communication and building rapport.
Asking the right questions can lead to more information and better outcomes in conversations.
Understanding the power dynamics in conversations can help prevent misinformation.
Self-development is a continuous journey, and owning one's experiences is vital for growth.
The importance of mental health awareness in leadership roles cannot be overstated.
Creating a comfortable environment encourages open communication and sharing of stories.
Learning from past experiences and applying those lessons is key to becoming a better communicator.
 

Wednesday Nov 06, 2024

In this episode of the Truth Be Told podcast, host Dave Thompson and guest Tom Meehan, CFI delve into the multifaceted world of artificial intelligence (AI). They explore the evolution of AI, its applications in various fields, and the inherent risks and benefits associated with its use. The conversation covers topics such as the impact of AI on education, the challenges of plagiarism, the phenomenon of deep fakes, and the role of voice assistants in enhancing communication. Throughout the discussion, they emphasize the importance of critical thinking and skepticism in an age where misinformation can easily spread. Tom shares insights from his extensive experience in technology and investigations, providing listeners with practical advice on navigating the complexities of AI.
 
Truths:
The introduction of ChatGPT made AI more accessible to the public.
AI can enhance efficiency but also poses risks of fraud and misinformation.
Deep fakes present significant challenges in verifying authenticity.
Voice assistants are evolving to provide more natural interactions.
Misinformation is a major concern with the rise of AI technology.
Critical thinking is essential when evaluating information sources.
AI can assist in education but may also lead to plagiarism issues.
Understanding the source of information is crucial in investigations.
The future of AI holds both promise and potential pitfalls.
Thanks to ControlTek for supporting this episode!

Wednesday Oct 23, 2024

In this episode of the Truth Be Told podcast, host Dave Thompson and communication expert Lisa Mitchell delve into the intricacies of effective communication, public speaking, and the impact of our demeanor and body language on these first impressions. They discuss the common fears associated with public speaking, the challenges faced by executives in conveying their messages, and the nuances of networking. Lisa shares her insights on jury selection and the role of communication in the justice system, emphasizing the need for empathy and understanding in high-stakes situations. The conversation also covers practical tips for engaging audiences, creating memorable presentations, and setting the right tone in various communication scenarios.
 
Truths:
Public speaking is a common fear, but it can be overcome.
Understanding the impact of our body language is crucial for effective communication.
Networking can be daunting, but preparation helps ease anxiety.
Engaging your audience makes presentations more memorable.
Being authentic and relatable fosters connection with your audience.
Preparation and practice are key to successful public speaking.
Feedback is essential for improving communication skills.
Creating a comfortable environment helps facilitate better communication.
Empathy plays a significant role in jury selection and the justice system.
Confidence in your material can reduce anxiety during presentations.
 

Wednesday Oct 09, 2024

Summary
In this conversation, Dr. Abbie discusses the importance of understanding and owning our shame to guide us towards authenticity. She emphasizes that personal growth is a continuous journey, where self-reflection plays a crucial role. The discussion with host, Dave Thompson also delves into overcoming imposter syndrome, the significance of kindness and empathy in relationships, and the impact of social media on self-perception. Dr. Abbie shares her personal journey, highlighting the struggles and triumphs that shaped her into the person she is today, ultimately encouraging listeners to embrace their flaws and recognize their potential for change.
Truths:
Understanding our own shame can guide us to authenticity.
Personal growth is a continuous journey; the work is never done.
Self-reflection is essential but often difficult.
Imposter syndrome is a common experience, especially in new roles.
Setting and communicating boundaries is crucial for healthy relationships.
Kindness can empower others and foster connection.
Social media can distort our perception of success and self-worth.
Self-talk significantly impacts our mental health and performance.
Embracing our flaws is part of being human.
We have the ability to choose to change and grow.

Wednesday Sep 25, 2024

If you were the victim of a crime, what would you want to happen to the person responsible?
How would you manage grief, anger and forgiveness?
In this episode of the Truth Be Told podcast, host Dave Thompson, a Certified Forensic Interviewer speaks with Jeanne Bishop about her personal tragedy and her journey towards forgiveness and advocacy against the death penalty.  Jeanne is an author, a professor at Northwestern University School of Law and an attorney at the Cook County Public Defender's Office.
In this episode, Jeanne shares her story of losing her sister in a violent crime and how it shaped her views on justice and mercy. The conversation delves into the Oklahoma City bombing, her relationship with Bud Welch, father of Julie Welch - one of the victims of the horrific event.  Jeanne also discusses the connection she formed with Bill McVeigh, the father of the bomber. Through their stories, Jeanne emphasizes the importance of compassion, understanding, and the power of communication in healing and reconciliation.
Truths:
Anger is a natural response to loss, but it can be managed.
Forgiveness does not mean forgetting; it means letting go of anger.
Each person has their own timetable on processing grief and anger.
Allowing somebody to share their story without judgement helps in obtaining reliable, genuine information.
Communication is key to understanding different perspectives.
Healing is a personal journey that varies for everyone.
Empathy can bridge the gap between victims and perpetrators' families.
Jeanne's work emphasizes the importance of victim advocacy.
 

Wednesday Sep 11, 2024

In this conversation, Dave Thompson interviews Brad Beeler, a former Secret Service agent, about the importance of communication in law enforcement and everyday life. They discuss the role of communication in interviews and interrogations, the significance of nonverbal cues, and the impact of assumptions on communication. Brad shares insights from his experience as a polygraph examiner and emphasizes the importance of honesty and mental preparedness in polygraph tests. They also touch on the challenges of communication in high-stress situations and the need for respect and rapport in building effective communication.
In this conversation, Brad Beeler, discusses various topics related to polygraph examinations, protective detail, and effective communication. He addresses the use of countermeasures in polygraphs and the prevalence of myths surrounding them. Brad also shares his experience working in protective detail for the Bush administration and highlights the importance of advanced communication and event management in ensuring the safety of high-profile individuals. He emphasizes the use of all five senses in creating a comfortable environment and demonstrates the significance of non-verbal cues, such as handshakes and body language, in effective communication.
 
Truths:
Communication is a crucial skill in law enforcement and everyday life.
Nonverbal cues, such as body language and vocal tonality, play a significant role in effective communication.
Assumptions can hinder effective communication and should be challenged.
Honesty and mental preparedness are key in polygraph tests.
Respect and rapport are essential in building effective communication.
Advanced communication and event management are crucial in protective detail to ensure the safety of high-profile individuals.
Using all five senses and paying attention to non-verbal cues, such as handshakes and body language, can greatly enhance communication effectiveness.
Continuous learning and improvement in communication skills are essential for becoming a better communicator.

Wednesday Aug 28, 2024

Can you be a more efficient and effective communicator?  What is your response rate to emails? How do you approach somebody you've never met?  Is elevator conversation an essential skill?  
 
Amy Reczek, founder and CEO of Sales and Presence, discusses the importance of effective communication in sales and beyond. She emphasizes the role of nonverbal behavior in building trust and rapport, and highlights the impact of small changes in verbal communication. Amy provides insights on how to personalize emails and avoid filler words to increase engagement and credibility. She also advises on the use of bullet points in emails to improve readability and engagement. Overall, Amy emphasizes the importance of authentic and intentional communication in building relationships and achieving success. In this conversation, Amy Reczek and Dave Thompson discuss the importance of effective communication in building relationships and achieving success. They emphasize the need to be clear, concise, and considerate in all forms of communication, whether it's written, verbal, or nonverbal. They also highlight the significance of preparation before meetings and conversations, including doing research on the other person and showing that you understand their needs and challenges. The conversation covers topics such as the importance of tangible takeaways, the value of fresh perspectives, and the art of follow-up. Overall, the conversation provides valuable insights and practical tips for improving communication skills.
Thank you to Alto for supporting this episode!  Visit www.alto.us to learn more.
Nonverbal behavior plays a crucial role in building trust and rapport in sales and other areas of life.
Small changes in verbal communication, such as personalizing emails and avoiding filler words, can have a significant impact on engagement and credibility.
Using bullet points in emails can improve readability and make it easier for recipients to understand and respond to the message.
Authentic and intentional communication is key to building relationships and achieving success. Effective communication is crucial for building relationships and achieving success.
Preparation and research before meetings and conversations are essential.
Tangible takeaways and fresh perspectives can make communication more impactful.
Follow-up is important, but it should be done with frequency, strategy, and value in mind.
 

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